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:iconpaws4thot:
Ok, it looks like I've rated this piece very highly, but to some extent that's because it's pretty technically superb, with the huge level of background detail, seemingly holographic roadsigns, the very clear direction of the primary light on the sniper, the smoke wisp from the firearm's muzzle brake, the very natural way that the chain link fencing has been broken...

There is one glaring flaw with it though. No-one could fire a weapon with that sort of barrel length relative to themself accurately unless it was supported by both a barrel support along most of the barrel length to prevent barrel droop and a bipod or tripod mounting to prevent muzzle shake. References that show what I mean include the first 15 minutes or so "The Expendibles 2", various episodes of Mythbusters (search YouTube for Mythbusters, Kari, and sniper rifle), and the first couple of episodes series 1 of the Anime "Black Lagoon".

As ever, if you wish to discuss this further, I'm open to helpful comments.
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:iconaspiringshadowseer:
AspiringShadowseer Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2013
Well I do agree with paws4thot on most of the points he brings up. I do however need to point out one thing, for the sake of realism. The way the character is Kneeling with a rifle like that. It is an improper stance to fire that weapon. Mainly because that stance doesn't prevent the recoil from transferring the energy into unsupportive stance and causing the character to land on thir back from the recoil. Stance is a really important factor with guns, especially with a gun of that sizes. Even with a recoil suppression system, the stance is not supportive. That's all. That's my one issue I had to add for realism's sake. If you want to correct that issue, study proper stances for firing weapons. Look at various positions you can fire from. With a weapon this big though, the character would have to lie on her stomach to best use the weapon.
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paws4thot Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
Thanks for the support.

If you're not familiar with my references, the point was that they show the correct use of a bipod (and in Kari's case a prone 'stance') with real World sniper rifles.
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AspiringShadowseer Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
"I know, I was just saving people the time it would take to realize the error and point it out to either you or the artist behind the illustration. I am a big fan of anything involving the military or a sci-fi feel, I just happened to notice the error. Even with bionics though the recoil would land the character on her back.
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Amairim Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If I wanted realistic I would have been looking at photos not Sci-FI art!
Not a flaw in any way at all :>
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:iconpaws4thot:
paws4thot Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
This is maybe where we differ; I can do "willing suspension of disbelief", but sometimes something is so glaringly wrong that it hurts my enjoyment of the whole.
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:iconamairim:
Amairim Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That's sad for you :(
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sweetishbeast Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist
The gun is made of an extremely light material, some gyroscopic mechanism stabilizes it and provides artificial inertia to counter the action of the bullet, the bullet system is designed with a delayed firing rocket propulsion (like a tiny RPG) and glowing neon signs float in midair to direct air traffic through the city streets, its the future, and it looks badass.
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paws4thot Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
Interesting thoughts; rocket-assisted rounds have already been done (but for much larger calibre guns).
Similarly with gyroscopic stabilisation, so I can say confidently that this technology relies on the gun being fixed at one pivot.
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jaime9526 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
and if the shooter is a cyborg? given the clear influence of 'ghost in the shell' on this piece?
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:iconpaws4thot:
paws4thot Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
I've seen GitS (unfortunate acronym), including Stand-Alone Complex, and the only thing I can think of in it that looks like this is the opening title for SAC First Gig.
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GreyHues Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for reply man) I agree with you, but it's the case I sacrifice realism in favor of picture c00lness, I would never paint such thing as a concept for a tactic FPS like CoD or something.. it's just many things I wanted to paint for a long time all in one pot=) Sexy anime-stylized chick with opened clothing (which is yet another flaw if we talk about realism) a huge sniper rifle and a neon-cyberpunk setting for the BG... She might be cyborg, have some implants in her limbs that allow for super perfect aiming and stuff - who knows, it's just my imagination and.. damn I LOVE "Black Lagoon", glad you mentioned it ;)... btw check "Jormungand" awesome stuff too
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paws4thot Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
I know I went on at some length about the rifle barrel but for me it's the one thing that spoils the picture. Still, that's why we ask for and give critiques; to get second opinions and tips.

If you love Black Lagoon and haven't done so, watch "The Expendables" and E2. They're similar stylistically but live action. Also, thanks for the recommendation of Jormungand; noted for my next visit to MZN.
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NEO-Nate Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I do agree though, it's impractical. But it would be a shame to view it as a flaw.
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paws4thot Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
I've already accepted that other's views may differ.
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:iconneo-nate:
NEO-Nate Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Honestly though, it seems like you would just rather replace artistic thought with realism, which I personally think ruins the image in favour of what people would understand, as if it were to conform to every day ideals.
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paws4thot Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
See my references, particularly Black Lagoon, which is Anime, and therefore "drawn art" rather than "photography".
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:iconneo-nate:
NEO-Nate Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Wasn't really referring to photography but okay. :T
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Julien12826 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
In favour of this image, the joints are mechanized which may or may not counter the weight and recoil difficulties a normal human would have. It's just an idea that makes this huge barrel a bit more realistic. :meow:
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paws4thot Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
You're seeing "mechanical(ly supported)" joints, and I'm seeing cyberpunk armour pieces. I've already accepted that other's views may differ.
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Julien12826 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
True, true. *nod nod*
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